Civil Discourse Prompts
Are regional disparities in professionalization inevitable?
Would teacher professionalization be advanced by uniform standards?
Do we trust anyone to set education standards and professionalization components?
Maddie Fennell Executive Director
Nebraska State Education Association

Maddie Fennell is the executive director of the Nebraska State Education Association, a National Board Certified teacher, the 2007 Nebraska Teacher of the Year, and a 27-year educator in Omaha Public Schools. Maddie spent three years on special assignment to the U.S. Department of Education as a Teacher Leader in Residence in the Office of the Secretary and a Teaching Ambassador Fellow.

Kate Walsh President
National Council on Teacher Quality

Kate Walsh has served as the president of the National Council on Teacher Quality since 2003, leading work to ensure that every child has equal access to effective teachers. At NCTQ, Walsh has spearheaded efforts to instill greater transparency and higher standards among those institutions that exert influence and authority over teachers. A long-time resident of Baltimore, Walsh has also served on the Maryland State School Board.

Teaching isn’t child’s play.
We can agree that the teaching profession suffers from both low status as a career choice and relatively low pay. Where there tends to be a lot less agreement are the remedies.

On the problem of low status, most of the remedies to date have involved a lot of talking at one another, mixed with a hefty dose of public shaming, deeming some perspectives as “anti-teacher.” However, teaching’s root challenge is not that it is too little celebrated, nor is its problem the lack of a Madison Avenue-style marketing campaign selling its benefits.

Maddie’s Response

While I agree that teaching “continues to be stigmatized as a lesser career,” I disagree with the premise that raising the bar to entry would “galvanize the movement for higher pay.”

Research confirms that students taught by National Board Certified Teachers (NBCTs) learn more than students taught by other teachers. A 2014 PDK/Gallup Poll found that “81% of Americans across the political spectrum believe teachers should achieve Board certification, beyond licensure, as it is in other professions.”

Yet, only 25 states provide compensation for this rigorous assessment.

Since we aren’t adequately compensating those who are attaining rigorous certification, I struggle to believe that raising education admission standards will cause a commensurate change in teacher salaries.

Kate’s Response

Our points of agreement are far more common than disagreements. Teachers need a defined body of knowledge to follow — which is why the National Council on Teacher Quality put forward standards for our “Teacher Prep Review.” Please take a look, Maddie!

Yes on intrastate portability for NBPTS teachers — and other high performers! Compensation must be addressed — not just low base pay but also strategic pay. Better evaluation, yes! Focus on equity, yes! Peer assistance and review is fine except its outcomes have been disappointing, which may explain why it hasn’t grabbed hold. I’m all for residencies, but I like to remind people of the high price tag — $65,000 per candidate. Why not improve student teaching, which costs very little? All in all, Maddie, we are on the same page!

 

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Too many education programs aren’t rigorous enough. In many classrooms, we have teachers who don’t have any education degree.

Why have the education programs lowered their standards?

This makes me think about a conversation we had in a previous education course where we talked about how sports has impacted the teaching profession in the United States. In many school in the United States, people become teachers because they want to teach one of the sports teams. Due to the prevalence of sports in education it is negatively impacting the students who aren't getting a properly trained teacher. I personally had multiple teachers in high school who were coaches without a degree in education or the subject that they were teaching and they weren't the best teachers.

Fund schools based on the needs of the students, not the zip codes they live in.

This is important because some schools might benefit from a new football stadium, but other schools might need more counselors and staffed psychologists.

This also creates a portability problem. A 15-year National Board Certified accomplished teacher in one state with outstanding evaluations may not be able to teach in another state because they came through an alternative certification program

This makes me consider the role of occupational licensing for teachers. I wonder if there are occupational licensing reforms that could be created to help make it easier for teachers to transfer from state to state.

Every state should allow those who have obtained certification from the National Board for Professional Teaching Standards immediate reciprocity in their state.

This policy proposal seems so well-intentioned and a remarkable starting point for necessary education reform. Therefore, I am wondering what some of the major explanations for such resistance to this proposal are, and which groups of stakeholders have the most opposition to this idea. Once this is established, I believe real progress can be achieved by presenting the direct benefits of states united in their credential standards.

The real question is how do we develop the societal commitment that will be needed to create the seismic changes required to transform teaching into a true profession?

Perhaps one way to improve society's overall view of teaching is to collaborate with other influencers of society such as the entertainment industry; this sector has tremendous clout and societal impact. What positive messages about education can Hollywood begin to communicate?

There were three key points to all professions

These three points ring true for professionalism in the Military too. One of the early articles suggested having academies for learning akin to West Point or Annapolis. Perhaps such an institution(s) would bring prestige to the profession and further help improve education in America by better controlling who becomes a teacher and why.

For example, every early childhood educator has not learned how to teach phonics even though the research says every reader needs this knowledge.

Yes! This reminds be of one time that I went into my sisters classroom for half of the day and I was walking around her classroom talking with the kids and helping with their activity and one of her students read the word "of" as "off" and when I corrected the word as "of" she looked at me puzzled and said, "No, because it doesn't have the letter V" and at that moment I realized that I couldn't tell her that she was not right because her logic was completely correct. In a panic and being at a loss for an explanation I went to grab my Sister and told her that I had no idea how to properly explain why that word was not "off". After a short explanation and a reminder that "of" was a sight word, I looked at her and she teasingly laughed at me and said…"See teaching is not as easy as it seems".

What we have is a shortage of educators who want to actually be teaching in classrooms every day. It’s not because of the kids. It’s due to the lack of systemic support, in their classrooms and their paychecks, that makes teaching untenable for them.

Being a teacher could be such an overwhelming profession, and without proper guidance and support it could seem undoable. We must treat teachers as students first, because each teacher first needs to be a student and learn what they need to teach. In the same way, we must show our teachers the support we want to show our students. We want to guide our students to do their best, we must do the same for our teachers.

Contrast this with the teaching field’s current system, where the low-rigor preparation and ease of entry into the field belies the daunting challenges that teachers face in the classroom every day.

This seems so backwards. If anything, teachers should be prepared above and beyond what they might end up facing in the classroom. As policymakers we need to create high-rigor experiences to prepare teachers. Of course, authentic classroom settings are hard to replicate but teachers should enter their classrooms with all the necessary tools and training to be effective leaders for their students. We need to raise our standards and not let subpar educators slip through the cracks and end up in the classroom.